i have worked in a couple of situations where i am online and the movers are in a studio together. i don't know what it feels like but it's funny to me because i think they are seeing way more than they might see in person. there's a looming presence. the wall sized boxes become the environment one is dancing in, the zoomers become the wall. perhaps they were having to mentally navigate the glitches! i have no idea what they felt but it was interesting to be alone in the room and know that i was being seen by a group who were responding but i couldn't see them fully and yet i could feel them and hear breath and footsteps and brushes of clothing on the floor. very trippy. as the facilitator i felt i had failed completely but apparently they all felt energized and inspired by the end. phew! hard to navigate when i'm unable to see their response.
but to get back to maintaining focus, i was following my own imagination and sensation journey, i needed to take my own instruction to feel my way through the experience and hoping something would be received. i think i came to trust a little bit more in my own poetic licence during the pandemic... and then checking in. what the heck was that like for everyone? i could feel something even in the silent pauses of check-ins. there was always a sense of surprise, delight and investigative drive - where are we? where do we want to go? how will we get there? no one knew but everyone was forever ready to try things... dancers are amazingly generous people, can i just say that?
2D to 3D...this Forum is intended to stay away from the IT (tech) aspects but I think this is a relevant note to share:
I have been working on several sizes of computer screens and larger fields. The bigger the monitor, the more connected I felt...others I know also began to run their feed through the larger screens of their TVs
..Although..!!...in one situation the screen was projected onto a huge wall in a studio and once again the detail was distorted and the disconnect was intense. But I thin the disconnect may have been more because the people were projected larger than life.
How do you bridge the flat online visuals to 3-dimensional understanding?
Is this question similar to asking a performer or creator how do you bridge working in a traditional proscenium setting to a performance in the round? Or viewed from above?
for the creator...? when I was setting material in online rehearsal I was constantly trying it out myself as the dancer(s) we doing it, in the hopes that my experience of the movement would give me information about details I could neither see nor sense.
@maxine When you wrote "performer as content provider" a flash of recognition went off in my head, because I assume that myself as a performer, or my dancers are performer are generative, creating content in the moment. And then I went down this rabbit hole asking when is a performer NOT a content provider?
I didn't try to filter the room, just the rooms outside where I was zooming from. I found short rehearsals worked better. I set tasks for dancers off camera, and then they would show what they did on camera (like phrases). How the material was shaped later depended on how it was to be performed. I found it really necessary to develop the material in the format it was to be performed in. If it was a zoom performance, we worked in those windows. If it was material to be recorded, I saved working on it til we were actually filming it.
As soon as we set up the video, I could enter – I could see myself entering and yet I didn’t feel like I was being watched by a camera – it was the same ritual that I do when I enter the stage – I prepared myself for that. While dancing I watched the video and he watched his video, we could see ourselves and each other from an outside view, and feel ourselves inside the dance at the same time. It kind of twisted our brain membrane backwards. Connected in a very different way. (from Conversations 2021)
What I have been telling them is – asking them to do- is to understand and see themselves – how they are bigger than that monitor – and how they are bigger than that technology; and when they look at me on the screen of the monitor that will only be for them like a navigator – a sign – (from Conversations 2021)
i feel that the 3 dimensional understanding of other people online is a function of memory. i don't do anything to the room, i don't feel any ritual except to get a glass of water, check my hair and make sure there are no tripping hazards. i just open my computer and begin by feeling my feet on the floor and listening to the voices, seeing who is in the room and saying hello.
perhaps i need to create a ritual in lieu of the experience of going somewhere, relocating my body, feeling the dimensions and vibrations of a different space, feeling the people there and my nervousness/excitement. instead of these incredibly delightful things, i could reconnect with something i have never seen in my space, feel my own vibrations and imagine i share this experience with someone else, ask people to describe their spaces. always take time before the call to travel in my mind to another place.
i have worked in a couple of situations where i am online and the movers are in a studio together. i don't know what it feels like but it's funny to me because i think they are seeing way more than they might see in person. there's a looming presence. the wall sized boxes become the environment one is dancing in, the zoomers become the wall. perhaps they were having to mentally navigate the glitches! i have no idea what they felt but it was interesting to be alone in the room and know that i was being seen by a group who were responding but i couldn't see them fully and yet i could feel them and hear breath and footsteps and brushes of clothing on the floor. very trippy. as the facilitator i felt i had failed completely but apparently they all felt energized and inspired by the end. phew! hard to navigate when i'm unable to see their response.
but to get back to maintaining focus, i was following my own imagination and sensation journey, i needed to take my own instruction to feel my way through the experience and hoping something would be received. i think i came to trust a little bit more in my own poetic licence during the pandemic... and then checking in. what the heck was that like for everyone? i could feel something even in the silent pauses of check-ins. there was always a sense of surprise, delight and investigative drive - where are we? where do we want to go? how will we get there? no one knew but everyone was forever ready to try things... dancers are amazingly generous people, can i just say that?
2D to 3D...this Forum is intended to stay away from the IT (tech) aspects but I think this is a relevant note to share:
I have been working on several sizes of computer screens and larger fields. The bigger the monitor, the more connected I felt...others I know also began to run their feed through the larger screens of their TVs
..Although..!!...in one situation the screen was projected onto a huge wall in a studio and once again the detail was distorted and the disconnect was intense. But I thin the disconnect may have been more because the people were projected larger than life.
How do you bridge the flat online visuals to 3-dimensional understanding?
Is this question similar to asking a performer or creator how do you bridge working in a traditional proscenium setting to a performance in the round? Or viewed from above?
I didn't try to filter the room, just the rooms outside where I was zooming from. I found short rehearsals worked better. I set tasks for dancers off camera, and then they would show what they did on camera (like phrases). How the material was shaped later depended on how it was to be performed. I found it really necessary to develop the material in the format it was to be performed in. If it was a zoom performance, we worked in those windows. If it was material to be recorded, I saved working on it til we were actually filming it.
As soon as we set up the video, I could enter – I could see myself entering and yet I didn’t feel like I was being watched by a camera – it was the same ritual that I do when I enter the stage – I prepared myself for that. While dancing I watched the video and he watched his video, we could see ourselves and each other from an outside view, and feel ourselves inside the dance at the same time. It kind of twisted our brain membrane backwards. Connected in a very different way. (from Conversations 2021)
What I have been telling them is – asking them to do- is to understand and see themselves – how they are bigger than that monitor – and how they are bigger than that technology; and when they look at me on the screen of the monitor that will only be for them like a navigator – a sign – (from Conversations 2021)
i feel that the 3 dimensional understanding of other people online is a function of memory. i don't do anything to the room, i don't feel any ritual except to get a glass of water, check my hair and make sure there are no tripping hazards. i just open my computer and begin by feeling my feet on the floor and listening to the voices, seeing who is in the room and saying hello.
perhaps i need to create a ritual in lieu of the experience of going somewhere, relocating my body, feeling the dimensions and vibrations of a different space, feeling the people there and my nervousness/excitement. instead of these incredibly delightful things, i could reconnect with something i have never seen in my space, feel my own vibrations and imagine i share this experience with someone else, ask people to describe their spaces. always take time before the call to travel in my mind to another place.